There are still some fallout shelters here and there with nice, fat, poisonous brown recluse spiders waiting in the moist darkness.... Home Depot still has tons of plastic sheeting and duct tape for anyone who remembers the default method of protection from deadly anthrax.... Yesterday, it was sneeze into your elbow. Today, it's DON'T sneeze into your elbow. Today, it's don't sneeze at all. Hold it in until your brains spurt out of your ears and you fart like a lawnmower engine exhaust.... Let me not forget 'Duck and Cover.' Yes, after seeing movies of fake towns erased in the path of the shock and heat waves from a nuclear bomb test, I just KNOW bending over under a wooden desk at school will save my tender ass, thank you, teacher and President Dwight David 'Ike' Eisenhower. Barack Obama is the BLACK Adlai Stevenson (for anyone who didn't sleep through history classes), but Stevenson was DIVORCED, which was political suicide in the early fifties.... But toDAY, compromised, adulterous politicians stick their arrogant foul faces and pieholes in front of cameras and tell us GAH-D, yes GAH-D and JEEEEE-sus, his ONLY Son, have forgiven them, and we should, too! Can I get a witness? Ted, I'd like to order MY Ventilated Monster Ball NOW, while supplies last, at the amazing, introductory price of $19.95, and for ordering NOW, I get a FREE sheet of paper with a hamburger recipe and a key to the post-G.W.Bush Looney Bin we call the United (but neatly- Divided) States of America! We're told gun sales have skyrocketed since Barack Obama took office. What happened to good old farm implements and torches in the night? Check out the movie "Targets" (1968) where Boris Karloff does a double-take from his reflection in a full-length mirror while a psychotic Vietnam Veteran goes on a killing rampage. That was a great "Welcome Home" for Veterans in 1968 from Peter 'Muther-fucking-asshole-little-prick' Bogdanovich, may all his remaining teeth fall out in one sleep session and he wake up with his dick just not 'there' anymore. Where's the Tylenol?
Here, they hold both the Congress and the Whitehouse. And they promised change. Well, change is what we lazy apathetic morons are getting - the exact change we deserve. Instead of killing our children in a war designed solely to take our tax money and give it to now-foreign corporations (Halliburton moved to Dubai or somesuch, or did everyone miss that memo), we have the Democrats freely giving our money to the people who destroyed the economy, and giving the rest of what we have left to profiteering corporations killing us in the health "care" industry.
What we desperately need is a revolution. Democrat voters can start by calling up their representatives (http://senate.gov and http://house.gov to find your representatives) and DEMANDING that our needs, not the needs of corporations be met, and that this bullshit of "partisan" reform efforts be tossed out the freakin' window in trade for some good old fashioned liberal reform and kicking the asses of conservatives.
My gawd man, Democrats have the power, and not only do they have a stranglehold on the Whitehouse and Congress, but they have the blessing of even Bush-appointed federal and Supreme Court justices. What they hell are these whimps doing?
I supported Obama not because he was any better than McCain, but because the Democrats are more easy to bully by the voters. And you pathetic morons are just sitting there in your living rooms, watching as our nation is handed over to another set of corporations. Hello people - wake the hell up. Stop letting corporations run our lives. Demand that your representatives represent you. Get together with your friends and neighbors, no matter what political party they are, and start talking about how our politicians are making us slaves to the corporations. If we can start talking to each other about the real problem, we can learn to set aside our petty differences. I mean, who the fuck cares if babies are being murdered before they are born or not - when what really matters is who makes the profit off our lives.
United we stand, divided we fall. And guess what - letting our differences come between us is dividing us as a people, and we are falling as a nation.
Yeah, anyway...thanks again for pointing out the obvious Ted. These people in America don't seem to get it. Maybe if they turned off their damn televisions and started READING the news and TALKING to their neighbors, they would learn what the hell is really going on.
Seth, I think the mutant monsters will spring from DC, but will go in a rampage in other places, in the US and around the globe. As a matter of fact, I think that's all they do pretty much all the time, already. Or weren't you speaking metaphorically?
The private sector is the monster. Grouchy, you sure you're just a "social-democrat"? Cause sometimes you sound as being to the left of Castro.
Democrat voters can start by calling up their representatives (http://senate.gov and http://house.gov to find your representatives) and DEMANDING that our needs,
How pathetic. Don't you have any self respect? Grow up. Try taking care of your own needs and quit waiting for a bunch of dolts in Washington to take care of you.
Grouchy, you sure you're just a "social-democrat"? Cause sometimes you sound as being to the left of Castro.
Regarding health insurance, the private sector is the monster. That's reality. The only way to make the private sector work as health insurance is to regulate the shit out of it and also provide a public option (see Germany). But it still works better to just let the government take over--eliminate the monster rather than try to tame it.
Cuba, by the way, has universal health care--oh wait a minute; you don't care if we get universal coverage! Why should we care what you've got to say on this matter...?
Blackjack- I could easily take care of my own needs if the government would do its job and keep corporations from screwing me.
Thats all most liberals want from government- a fair playing field. The idea that we want "to be taken care of" is a myth generated by the corporatists and facists to sway the gullibile so corporations can keep screwing everyone over consequence free.
Regarding health insurance, the private sector is the monster. That's reality.
The reality is, as far I remember it, the health insurance mess in the US is mostly the federal government's doing.
The only way to make the private sector work as health insurance is to regulate the shit out of it and also provide a public option (see Germany). But it still works better to just let the government take over--eliminate the monster rather than try to tame it.
Of course, by health "insurance" you mean free health care for those unable or unwilling to pay for it. That's OK. Just don't confuse that with insurance. The German model is in debate in Germany itself, guess what, and even more so now that the CDU doesn't have to put up with the SDP in a coalition. Bad timing for quoting Germany on so-called social-democracy.
Cuba, by the way, has universal health care--oh wait a minute; you don't care if we get universal coverage! Why should we care what you've got to say on this matter...?
If you mean, I don't care which way the current debate in the US goes, you're right, it doesn't affect me or the rest or the rest of the globe. Personally, I think you will get federally funded health care. I also think you're not going to like it.
Anyways, it wasn't me who introduced health care thing into this thread, it was you. Cuba, btw has crappy, barely equipped hospitals, just like Brazil and Mexico, who also have "universal health care", if by that we understand government funded hospitals with huge waiting lines. What it doesn't have is freedom and hope.
Thats all most liberals want from government- a fair playing field. Well guess what? Life isn't fair. Seriously, my 2 year old is more mature then you gullible dependent self center statists. Put down the bumper sticker slogan book and get out and make something of yourself. Quit waiting for a fat bloated bureaucrat slob to do it for you.
The reality is, as far I remember it, the health insurance mess in the US is mostly the federal government's doing.
Yes, obviously. So the solution is to deregulate the insurance "industry" and let the free market magically provide universal health care! Hooray free market!
Of course, by health "insurance" you mean free health care for those unable or unwilling to pay for it.
Nope. It'll come from taxes. Everyone pays taxes. If you make more money, you pay more taxes. That's simple. Sorry if you're rich, but you gotta pay more. Rich people, that's the price you gotta pay to use the system. I'm so sorry.
The German model is in debate in Germany itself, guess what, and even more so now that the CDU doesn't have to put up with the SDP in a coalition. Bad timing for quoting Germany on so-called social-democracy.
Huh? That Germany is having a debate invalidates the efficiency of single-payer (which they don't have) or social-democracy? (Hint: having a debate is part of the democracy bit.)
I know a lot about Germany and its health care system--I even have firsthand experience. It's relatively mediocre compared to France or Canada, but its better than the shitty US system. (And if you think the German people are going to allow the CDU to gut their social programs, I'd say you don't know anything about Germany.)
If you mean, I don't care which way the current debate in the US goes, you're right, it doesn't affect me or the rest or the rest of the globe.
That's not what I meant (and you know it), but actually, it might affect the rest of the globe--for better or worse--if health care costs sink the US economy.
Personally, I think you will get federally funded health care. I also think you're not going to like it.
I don't think we will. I don't know why you think that. But if we do, I'll certainly like it, because it'll be better than my current situation.
Cuba, btw has crappy, barely equipped hospitals, just like Brazil and Mexico, who also have "universal health care", if by that we understand government funded hospitals with huge waiting lines. What it doesn't have is freedom and hope.
That statement is factually incorrect--and willfully so--but yes, let's always focus on how good the health care is Latin America--in poor countries just like the USA.
What we in the US shouldn't ever do is compare our system to rich countries like Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Australia, Taiwan, Denmark, Sweden or Japan. No, we shouldn't do that...
The private health insurance industry is highly regulate at the state and federal level. Like the current HMO system? You can thank that fat dead murdering drunk Ted Kennedy; he gave it to us.
The only reason life isnt fair is because gullible coropratists like you have bought into the myth that its ok for you to be screwed by corporations.
It's not ok for ANYONE to be screwed by coroprations, though your use of the myth that "I'm waiting for government to make something of me" tells me that you don't get that, and you never will.
You're one of the dead-end 30%. Enjoy your ignorance and your selfishness.
Me, I'll be fighting for a fair world, a better world, for everyone.
Grouchy, I was specifically addressing your statement "Everyone pays taxes". Not everyone pays federal income tax. The lower 50% of earners pay virtually no federal income tax. You are wrong again.
The only reason life isnt fair is because gullible coropratists like you have bought into the myth that its ok for you to be screwed by corporations. So life was fair before the advent of the legal structure called a corporation? You do understand a corporation is just a legal structure. There are plenty of business that are partnerships, LLC's, partnerships. But because they are not structured as a corporation they are not capable of "screwing you"?
I was specifically addressing your statement "Everyone pays taxes". Not everyone pays federal income tax. The lower 50% of earners pay virtually no federal income tax. You are wrong again.
A significant portion of my salary goes to federal income taxes. It's the largest tax taken from my pay.
You can say I pay "virtually no federal income tax,"--and I don't compared to Europeans--but to me, it's a lot of money.
My apologies, before I posted that the bottom 50% of wage earners pay less then 3.3% of federal taxes. I neglected to point out so do prominent Democrats including the head of the treasury and the other tax cheat, Charlie Rangle, who just happens to chair the committee that write our tax laws.
Billy Jack - Life was fairer before gullible corpratists like yourself got the regulations regarding how coroporations (Your use of semantics about the word coroporations to try and disguise the fact you don't actually have a rebuttal is noted) could behave drastically reduced, yes.
Life could very easily be made fair; it starts with making sure all business does the right thing by HEAVILY regulating them (because the idea that they will do the right thing without being heavily regulated is a delusion).
But you'd rather sit there repeating "Hur. It's ok for coroporations to screw people over because life isn't fair." and other right wing delusional myths and completely ignore the reality that the only reason life isn't fair is that you won't get off your ass and make it fair.
As I said, enjoy your ignorance and selfishness. Luckily, the pool of those that wallow in those qualities with you grows smaller by the day.
My apologies, before I posted that the bottom 50% of wage earners pay less then 3.3% of federal taxes. I neglected to point out so do prominent Democrats including the head of the treasury and the other tax cheat, Charlie Rangle, who just happens to chair the committee that write our tax laws.
Are you trying to argue that tax laws are written by corrupt people? Because if you are, I will agree. Both parties are completely corrupt. What's your point?
My federal income tax rate is 15%, and I actually pay it because there aren't any loopholes available to someone in my position.
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There are still some fallout shelters here and there with nice, fat, poisonous brown recluse spiders waiting in the moist darkness....
Home Depot still has tons of plastic sheeting and duct tape for anyone who remembers the default method of protection from deadly anthrax....
Yesterday, it was sneeze into your elbow. Today, it's DON'T sneeze into your elbow. Today, it's don't sneeze at all. Hold it in until your brains spurt out of your ears and you fart like a lawnmower engine exhaust....
Let me not forget 'Duck and Cover.' Yes, after seeing movies of fake towns erased in the path of the shock and heat waves from a nuclear bomb test, I just KNOW bending over under a wooden desk at school will save my tender ass, thank you, teacher and President Dwight David 'Ike' Eisenhower.
Barack Obama is the BLACK Adlai Stevenson (for anyone who didn't sleep through history classes), but Stevenson was DIVORCED, which was political suicide in the early fifties....
But toDAY, compromised, adulterous politicians stick their arrogant foul faces and pieholes in front of cameras and tell us GAH-D, yes GAH-D and JEEEEE-sus, his ONLY Son, have forgiven them, and we should, too! Can I get a witness?
Ted, I'd like to order MY Ventilated Monster Ball NOW, while supplies last, at the amazing, introductory price of $19.95, and for ordering NOW, I get a FREE sheet of paper with a hamburger recipe and a key to the post-G.W.Bush Looney Bin we call the United (but neatly- Divided) States of America!
We're told gun sales have skyrocketed since Barack Obama took office. What happened to good old farm implements and torches in the night?
Check out the movie "Targets" (1968) where Boris Karloff does a double-take from his reflection in a full-length mirror while a psychotic Vietnam Veteran goes on a killing rampage. That was a great "Welcome Home" for Veterans in 1968 from Peter 'Muther-fucking-asshole-little-prick' Bogdanovich, may all his remaining teeth fall out in one sleep session and he wake up with his dick just not 'there' anymore.
Where's the Tylenol?
The Democratic party has done pissed me off.
Here, they hold both the Congress and the Whitehouse. And they promised change. Well, change is what we lazy apathetic morons are getting - the exact change we deserve. Instead of killing our children in a war designed solely to take our tax money and give it to now-foreign corporations (Halliburton moved to Dubai or somesuch, or did everyone miss that memo), we have the Democrats freely giving our money to the people who destroyed the economy, and giving the rest of what we have left to profiteering corporations killing us in the health "care" industry.
What we desperately need is a revolution. Democrat voters can start by calling up their representatives (http://senate.gov and http://house.gov to find your representatives) and DEMANDING that our needs, not the needs of corporations be met, and that this bullshit of "partisan" reform efforts be tossed out the freakin' window in trade for some good old fashioned liberal reform and kicking the asses of conservatives.
My gawd man, Democrats have the power, and not only do they have a stranglehold on the Whitehouse and Congress, but they have the blessing of even Bush-appointed federal and Supreme Court justices. What they hell are these whimps doing?
I supported Obama not because he was any better than McCain, but because the Democrats are more easy to bully by the voters. And you pathetic morons are just sitting there in your living rooms, watching as our nation is handed over to another set of corporations. Hello people - wake the hell up. Stop letting corporations run our lives. Demand that your representatives represent you. Get together with your friends and neighbors, no matter what political party they are, and start talking about how our politicians are making us slaves to the corporations. If we can start talking to each other about the real problem, we can learn to set aside our petty differences. I mean, who the fuck cares if babies are being murdered before they are born or not - when what really matters is who makes the profit off our lives.
United we stand, divided we fall. And guess what - letting our differences come between us is dividing us as a people, and we are falling as a nation.
Yeah, anyway...thanks again for pointing out the obvious Ted. These people in America don't seem to get it. Maybe if they turned off their damn televisions and started READING the news and TALKING to their neighbors, they would learn what the hell is really going on.
Keep fighting the good fight Ted.
A slight quibble here, Ted: The private sector is the monster.
Would it be too much to hope that the mutant monster rampage starts in Washington DC?
Seth, I think the mutant monsters will spring from DC, but will go in a rampage in other places, in the US and around the globe. As a matter of fact, I think that's all they do pretty much all the time, already. Or weren't you speaking metaphorically?
The private sector is the monster. Grouchy, you sure you're just a "social-democrat"? Cause sometimes you sound as being to the left of Castro.
Democrat voters can start by calling up their representatives (http://senate.gov and http://house.gov to find your representatives) and DEMANDING that our needs,
How pathetic. Don't you have any self respect? Grow up. Try taking care of your own needs and quit waiting for a bunch of dolts in Washington to take care of you.
Grouchy, you sure you're just a "social-democrat"? Cause sometimes you sound as being to the left of Castro.
Regarding health insurance, the private sector is the monster. That's reality. The only way to make the private sector work as health insurance is to regulate the shit out of it and also provide a public option (see Germany). But it still works better to just let the government take over--eliminate the monster rather than try to tame it.
Cuba, by the way, has universal health care--oh wait a minute; you don't care if we get universal coverage! Why should we care what you've got to say on this matter...?
(How did I do there, Aggie?)
Blackjack- I could easily take care of my own needs if the government would do its job and keep corporations from screwing me.
Thats all most liberals want from government- a fair playing field. The idea that we want "to be taken care of" is a myth generated by the corporatists and facists to sway the gullibile so corporations can keep screwing everyone over consequence free.
Regarding health insurance, the private sector is the monster. That's reality.
The reality is, as far I remember it, the health insurance mess in the US is mostly the federal government's doing.
The only way to make the private sector work as health insurance is to regulate the shit out of it and also provide a public option (see Germany). But it still works better to just let the government take over--eliminate the monster rather than try to tame it.
Of course, by health "insurance" you mean free health care for those unable or unwilling to pay for it. That's OK. Just don't confuse that with insurance. The German model is in debate in Germany itself, guess what, and even more so now that the CDU doesn't have to put up with the SDP in a coalition. Bad timing for quoting Germany on so-called social-democracy.
Cuba, by the way, has universal health care--oh wait a minute; you don't care if we get universal coverage! Why should we care what you've got to say on this matter...?
If you mean, I don't care which way the current debate in the US goes, you're right, it doesn't affect me or the rest or the rest of the globe. Personally, I think you will get federally funded health care. I also think you're not going to like it.
Anyways, it wasn't me who introduced health care thing into this thread, it was you. Cuba, btw has crappy, barely equipped hospitals, just like Brazil and Mexico, who also have "universal health care", if by that we understand government funded hospitals with huge waiting lines. What it doesn't have is freedom and hope.
Thats all most liberals want from government- a fair playing field. Well guess what? Life isn't fair. Seriously, my 2 year old is more mature then you gullible dependent self center statists. Put down the bumper sticker slogan book and get out and make something of yourself. Quit waiting for a fat bloated bureaucrat slob to do it for you.
The reality is, as far I remember it, the health insurance mess in the US is mostly the federal government's doing.
Yes, obviously. So the solution is to deregulate the insurance "industry" and let the free market magically provide universal health care! Hooray free market!
Of course, by health "insurance" you mean free health care for those unable or unwilling to pay for it.
Nope. It'll come from taxes. Everyone pays taxes. If you make more money, you pay more taxes. That's simple. Sorry if you're rich, but you gotta pay more. Rich people, that's the price you gotta pay to use the system. I'm so sorry.
The German model is in debate in Germany itself, guess what, and even more so now that the CDU doesn't have to put up with the SDP in a coalition. Bad timing for quoting Germany on so-called social-democracy.
Huh? That Germany is having a debate invalidates the efficiency of single-payer (which they don't have) or social-democracy? (Hint: having a debate is part of the democracy bit.)
I know a lot about Germany and its health care system--I even have firsthand experience. It's relatively mediocre compared to France or Canada, but its better than the shitty US system. (And if you think the German people are going to allow the CDU to gut their social programs, I'd say you don't know anything about Germany.)
If you mean, I don't care which way the current debate in the US goes, you're right, it doesn't affect me or the rest or the rest of the globe.
That's not what I meant (and you know it), but actually, it might affect the rest of the globe--for better or worse--if health care costs sink the US economy.
Personally, I think you will get federally funded health care. I also think you're not going to like it.
I don't think we will. I don't know why you think that. But if we do, I'll certainly like it, because it'll be better than my current situation.
Cuba, btw has crappy, barely equipped hospitals, just like Brazil and Mexico, who also have "universal health care", if by that we understand government funded hospitals with huge waiting lines. What it doesn't have is freedom and hope.
That statement is factually incorrect--and willfully so--but yes, let's always focus on how good the health care is Latin America--in poor countries just like the USA.
What we in the US shouldn't ever do is compare our system to rich countries like Canada, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Australia, Taiwan, Denmark, Sweden or Japan. No, we shouldn't do that...
Everyone pays taxes.
Sorry not everyone pays taxes, if by taxes you mean income tax. The lower 50% pay almost nothing.
Frankly I'd like to see a system where those that do not pay income tax do not get to vote on fiscal issues.
The private health insurance industry is highly regulate at the state and federal level. Like the current HMO system? You can thank that fat dead murdering drunk Ted Kennedy; he gave it to us.
Billy Jack-
The only reason life isnt fair is because gullible coropratists like you have bought into the myth that its ok for you to be screwed by corporations.
It's not ok for ANYONE to be screwed by coroprations, though your use of the myth that "I'm waiting for government to make something of me" tells me that you don't get that, and you never will.
You're one of the dead-end 30%. Enjoy your ignorance and your selfishness.
Me, I'll be fighting for a fair world, a better world, for everyone.
Sorry [sic] not everyone pays taxes, if by taxes you mean income tax. The lower 50% pay almost nothing.
A significant portion of my salary goes to income taxes. What about you?
If you don't pay income taxes, what are you whining about?
If you're in the upper 50% of earners, what are you whining about?
Either way, I'd say you need to buck up, or you might risk seeming effeminate.
Like the current HMO system?
No. Do you?
Grouchy,
I was specifically addressing your statement "Everyone pays taxes". Not everyone pays federal income tax. The lower 50% of earners pay virtually no federal income tax. You are wrong again.
The only reason life isnt fair is because gullible coropratists like you have bought into the myth that its ok for you to be screwed by corporations.
So life was fair before the advent of the legal structure called a corporation? You do understand a corporation is just a legal structure. There are plenty of business that are partnerships, LLC's, partnerships. But because they are not structured as a corporation they are not capable of "screwing you"?
I was specifically addressing your statement "Everyone pays taxes". Not everyone pays federal income tax. The lower 50% of earners pay virtually no federal income tax. You are wrong again.
A significant portion of my salary goes to federal income taxes. It's the largest tax taken from my pay.
You can say I pay "virtually no federal income tax,"--and I don't compared to Europeans--but to me, it's a lot of money.
My apologies, before I posted that the bottom 50% of wage earners pay less then 3.3% of federal taxes. I neglected to point out so do prominent Democrats including the head of the treasury and the other tax cheat, Charlie Rangle, who just happens to chair the committee that write our tax laws.
Billy Jack - Life was fairer before gullible corpratists like yourself got the regulations regarding how coroporations (Your use of semantics about the word coroporations to try and disguise the fact you don't actually have a rebuttal is noted) could behave drastically reduced, yes.
Life could very easily be made fair; it starts with making sure all business does the right thing by HEAVILY regulating them (because the idea that they will do the right thing without being heavily regulated is a delusion).
But you'd rather sit there repeating "Hur. It's ok for coroporations to screw people over because life isn't fair." and other right wing delusional myths and completely ignore the reality that the only reason life isn't fair is that you won't get off your ass and make it fair.
As I said, enjoy your ignorance and selfishness. Luckily, the pool of those that wallow in those qualities with you grows smaller by the day.
My apologies, before I posted that the bottom 50% of wage earners pay less then 3.3% of federal taxes. I neglected to point out so do prominent Democrats including the head of the treasury and the other tax cheat, Charlie Rangle, who just happens to chair the committee that write our tax laws.
Are you trying to argue that tax laws are written by corrupt people? Because if you are, I will agree. Both parties are completely corrupt. What's your point?
My federal income tax rate is 15%, and I actually pay it because there aren't any loopholes available to someone in my position.
What about you?
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