I think the state opt out idea is awesome. It's completely nonsense, but it will make some conservatives feel at ease because of this whole conception of 'choice.' In the end, state legislatures will have a far more difficult time blocking health care reform than the US Senate. Simply put, the Senate is the most unrepresentative aspect of our system; it HEAVILY over represents rural areas, which tend to be poorer, less educated, and more conservative. The reason being that each state gets two Senators, meaning Wyoming and Idaho mean just as much as California and New York. It's an affront to the notion of representative democracy.
An opt out would allow dumb states like South Carolina to shoot themselves in the foot, while the rest of the country moves forward.
The silly part of this whole thing is that a number of states ALREADY HAVE a public option and near universal health care. It works great, and it's highly popular. Why don't we hear about this? Oh, because it doesn't serve the right interests.
Ted! Your cartoon reminds me of the real-life experience of the late actor, Van Johnson, in the early 1940s. He had a car accident. In his own words, he was "literally holding my brains from falling out of the gaping crack in the front of my head," when an ambulance attendant said he couldn't help Van Johnson, because he was on the "Wrong side of the road," out of his jusisdiction! Johnson carried himself to the other side of the road, with no physical help from anyone at the crash site, in order to get emergency treatment and transportation to a hospital.
This reform will be the death of freedom in the US. People will be held back in jobs that offer insurance benefits because they'll be forced by law to pay for it themselves otherwise.
Those without employer health insurance will end up dependant on government handouts. It will also increase payroll deductions pushing the poor down a little further (and don't think that there wont be one - the small supply of rich people in this country will be bled dry quickly). The opt-out won't last very long since people in those states will still be forced to buy insurance (remember the mandate is federal and there's no opting out of that).
BJ, as usual I have no idea what you're blathering on about or why you're bothering to direct it my way, as I'm thoroughly uninterested in having a conversation with you about this or any other topic.
I find it amusing that someone from a cesspool like Lansing Michigan would ridicule another peron's choice on where they choose to live. At least if you lived in a modern metropolitan city I'd understand your condescending arrogance towards those who live in the rural south.
You are taking this to an unnecessarily personal level. It is the personal vendetta quality of your participation on this blog that influences my view of your motives, competence and character, not where you live. I have never belittled you personally for your residence, and I have never belittled you personally for your occupation. These are things you've done to myself and to others, and now you are clearly intensifying the personal attack with specificity.
This is precisely why I have no interest in facilitating your amusement.
AD, You are correct. Perhaps it's because you do not know where I live or what I do. You do however belittle those who live in rural communities and those who live in the south, specifically Texas.
When will you admit that you were incorrect about the poll?
You’ve got this big, monster big, shark. Which is health care insurance. It has teeth. Big teeth. Monster big, razor sharp. It’s a beast. Inside, the belly of the beast, you have doctors. Reliant on the shark. For scraps of meat. The shark strikes, health care reform turns into broken, mismatched, disconnected bones. Splintered fragments scattered all over the place. Not only that, it has a hole in its heart...
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I think the state opt out idea is awesome. It's completely nonsense, but it will make some conservatives feel at ease because of this whole conception of 'choice.' In the end, state legislatures will have a far more difficult time blocking health care reform than the US Senate. Simply put, the Senate is the most unrepresentative aspect of our system; it HEAVILY over represents rural areas, which tend to be poorer, less educated, and more conservative. The reason being that each state gets two Senators, meaning Wyoming and Idaho mean just as much as California and New York. It's an affront to the notion of representative democracy.
An opt out would allow dumb states like South Carolina to shoot themselves in the foot, while the rest of the country moves forward.
The silly part of this whole thing is that a number of states ALREADY HAVE a public option and near universal health care. It works great, and it's highly popular. Why don't we hear about this? Oh, because it doesn't serve the right interests.
Ted!
Your cartoon reminds me of the real-life experience of the late actor, Van Johnson, in the early 1940s. He had a car accident. In his own words, he was "literally holding my brains from falling out of the gaping crack in the front of my head," when an ambulance attendant said he couldn't help Van Johnson, because he was on the "Wrong side of the road," out of his jusisdiction! Johnson carried himself to the other side of the road, with no physical help from anyone at the crash site, in order to get emergency treatment and transportation to a hospital.
This could be a reverse of the 'Roe Effect' - dummies ensure their state legislatures allow them to die, thus thinning the herd! I love it!
This reform will be the death of freedom in the US. People will be held back in jobs that offer insurance benefits because they'll be forced by law to pay for it themselves otherwise.
Those without employer health insurance will end up dependant on government handouts. It will also increase payroll deductions pushing the poor down a little further (and don't think that there wont be one - the small supply of rich people in this country will be bled dry quickly). The opt-out won't last very long since people in those states will still be forced to buy insurance (remember the mandate is federal and there's no opting out of that).
Well Aggie, considering conservatives are opposed to the so called "opt-out" I have to wonder if you are correct about people from Searchlight Nevada.
Substitute wrecked/sick people with companies wanting to cut costs and have healthy employees.
The same thing happened in California when higher education was almost free. It created a well educated base of talent for corporations to draw from.
I'm all for allowing the states to opt out as long as they can opt out of the taxation and regulation as well.
considering conservatives are opposed to the so called "opt-out"
More incoherent nonsense.
BJ, as usual I have no idea what you're blathering on about or why you're bothering to direct it my way, as I'm thoroughly uninterested in having a conversation with you about this or any other topic.
I find it amusing
that someone from a cesspool like Lansing Michigan would ridicule another peron's choice on where they choose to live. At least if you lived in a modern metropolitan city I'd understand your condescending arrogance towards those who live in the rural south.
BJ,
You are taking this to an unnecessarily personal level. It is the personal vendetta quality of your participation on this blog that influences my view of your motives, competence and character, not where you live. I have never belittled you personally for your residence, and I have never belittled you personally for your occupation. These are things you've done to myself and to others, and now you are clearly intensifying the personal attack with specificity.
This is precisely why I have no interest in facilitating your amusement.
AD,
You are correct. Perhaps it's because you do not know where I live or what I do. You do however belittle those who live in rural communities and those who live in the south, specifically Texas.
When will you admit that you were incorrect about the poll?
You’ve got this big, monster big, shark. Which is health care insurance. It has teeth. Big teeth. Monster big, razor sharp. It’s a beast. Inside, the belly of the beast, you have doctors. Reliant on the shark. For scraps of meat. The shark strikes, health care reform turns into broken, mismatched, disconnected bones. Splintered fragments scattered all over the place. Not only that, it has a hole in its heart...
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