Susan Stark's Friendly Reminder
September 11, 2001:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2002:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2003:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2004:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2005:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2006:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2007:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2008:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2009:
Where's Osama?
September 12, 2009:
Where's Cheney?
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2002:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2003:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2004:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2005:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2006:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2007:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2008:
Where's Osama?
September 11, 2009:
Where's Osama?
September 12, 2009:
Where's Cheney?
posted by Susan Stark at
9:30 AM
24 Comments:
For the definitive answer to q's 2001 through 2009, refer to bohuya.com
I'm not able to find your website, Anon, but the point is, nobody has gone to trial for the crime of 9/11, and the supposed "mastermind" of the 9/11 crime has not be brought to justice.
Susan, please don't tell me you want Osama Bin Laden to be brought to "justice".
Although I agree Cheney should be put on trial, along with Bush and everyone else.
in Pakistan, silly. But we can't touch him because it will destabilize the country. And last time I checked destabilizing a country with nukes even more than it already is, is a bad thing
as for Cheney I'm stumped
Anon 7:40,
I don't think Osama will be brought to justice. The fact that he hasn't been brought to justice only feeds the 9/11 Truthers' claim that the government committed 9/11.
Personally, I believe that Bin Laden is either dead, or in hiding on one of his family's estates in Saudi Arabia. He needs kidney dialysis treatment on a regular basis, and can't get that hiding out in Pakistan or any other place without sufficient electricity or sanitation for eight years.
Susan, I think you missed my point. Osama is the McGuffin of US Foreign Policy. To still focus on him as having any significance whatsoever is superfluous.
Bin Laden was the money man for a large collection of otherwise unrelated terrorist groups. He's no criminal mastermind. Al Qaeda was defined by the FBI to be an umbrella group containing every group Bin Laden has ever funded. There's no other significant link between any of the groups within Al Qaeda. Bin Laden is not their commander.
As much as I'd like to see him in in a Federal Prison on death row, it doesn't matter if we catch Bin Laden. He can't do any more damage as long as his bank accounts are frozen.
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Well where is exactly is Cheney supposed to be and why?
I was gonna answer North Wziristan, Kurram or Sudan, but Susan saying Family Farm in Saudi Arabia got me thinking, maybe...
Heres a conspiracy theory on Osama's actual motivation to topple the Al-Saud family as the rulers ofthe Kingdom of Saudi Arabia; He simply wants to replace them, with his family as the rulers of Saudi Arabia.
Even though his blood siblings are as good as Al Saud Princes and Princesses in Saudi Arabia, its the Al Saud family that has its name stamped on everything in the country. If a revolution would hapen in Saudi Arabia, it would be the Al-Sauds who's family would be on the chopping block, the Bin Ladin family would remain because they're name is nowhere.
Any comments?
Sincerely
Y_S
Pakistan
Susan, I think you missed my point. Osama is the McGuffin of US Foreign Policy. To still focus on him as having any significance whatsoever is superfluous.
I got point. I just don't agree with you. If Bin Laden committed 9/11, he's got to be brought to justice, and that's that.
Where's the evidence, outside of fake videos, that Osama bin Laden - who has been dead since November 2001 - did 9/11? Powell's "White Paper"? No, he never produced that. Tony bLIAR's report? Not good enough for trial, bLIAR says. Even the FBI doesn't list 9/11 as one of bin Laden's crimes. As long as people continue to buy the essentials of the government's 9/11 conspiracy fiction about 19 Arabs with boxcutters controlled from a cave in Afghanistan, Americans will continue to consent (not necessarily actively support, which isn't necessary, just acquiesce) to killing Muslims and Arabs by the countryload. As for Rall's question, "Why should we die for Karzai, etc?" - that's dishonest, most Americans will never die for US imperialism. And I care FAR less for the kids who sign up for US capitalist-imperialism than I do for the MILLIONS who are ruthlessly exterminated and dispossessed in country after country by these thugs.
"I got point. I just don't agree with you. If Bin Laden committed 9/11, he's got to be brought to justice, and that's that."
Has anyone watched his admission video??? I know it is hard to find now, but come on!
He said that "based upon his expertise in this field" he thought the buildings would only collapse down to the level where the planes collided.
May be he hasn't even planned any terrorist attacks, much less 9-11.
I guess his credit claiming and effective PR tactics makes him an accomplice in US war crimes.
Estaban:
Communism is dead. Give it up. You're "capitalist-imperialism" argument is tired and old. Capitalism has endured, Marxism has not. So sorry.
What evidence do you have the Bin Laden is dead? Perhaps you missed the 2004 video in which his terrorist organization claimed responsibility. You do realize that in your post, you have essentially supported an enemy of the U.S.
9/11 Truthers... I get a kick out of that one every time. You people on the left have not wasted a second of time since the U.S. was attacked on 9/11 unwittingly supporting the terrorists who carried those attacks out.
Communism is dead.
Democratic socialism lives, and produces the highest standards of living.
You people on the left have not wasted a second of time since the U.S. was attacked on 9/11 unwittingly supporting the terrorists who carried those attacks out.
The invasion of Iraq was the best thing that ever happened to Islamic extremists. We people on the left wasted no time opposing that stupid move.
Sorry Folks, it was those 19 hijackers that did everything.
The North and South Towers went because the pancake effect. One floor fell onto the other as a result of the things which supported them up becoming weak from the fire, and plain gravity pulling it down is what did the towers in. It happened fast because the WTC towers were less materially dense than the Empire State Building. The Empire State had beams criss-crossing in every direction. The WTC had one central hollowish support column.
Tower 7 is one one enduring part of the conspiracy of the US goverment doing this attack. Actually, Tower 7 contained a Con-Edison power plant with hundreds of thousands of gallons of fuel. Thats why it caught fire. Giuliani also added 7000 or so gallons of fuel because he wanted to use Tower 7 as his emergency command/control centre in case of an attack. Thats why Tower 7 went.
Ted the military jets were mobilised AFTER Flight 93 crashed. Cheney did not shoot the jets shot down. If only he were that competent. He may have given permission, but I guess that point is moot.
The US government was simply caught surprised and at the NSA/FBI level disorganised. The liason officers were not listening to each other carefully, and they were not forwarding things on time, whilst leads were not followed quickly enough.
Bin Laden had a safe house in Yemen which he used as a centralised point for forward instruction and distribution of funds. Extraordinary resources were not bought to bear on that Yemen safehouse especially in the late 1990's when US Bin Laden was the only entity who declared to threaten to attack the United States. The NSA treated the Yemen safe house as a routine surveillance rather than bringing a combined NSA-FBI-CIA task force to bear on that one central point. This is of course June 2000 to about January 2001 I am talking about. At that time, public opinion in the United States had other things to think about. And by the time the dust settled on early 2001, Osama Bin Laden had gone very low down on the priority list of the United States.
All Osama's network needed was one really spectacular attack to goad the US into war mode, and that would be it. Your analysts were saying the same thing about him wanting to get you guys to go into Afghanistan. For that one spectacular attack, he had to centralise his forces. If that one Disposable centralisation (Starting from Sanaá, Yemen) had been caught, maybe history would be different.
Now of course, his network is focused back on its original track of ideologically focussing the Muslim world on destroying its own governments and replacing them with their own Taliban clones.
I am very sorry to say that the United States may have played its part in his plans.
To repeat, the September 2001 attacks were definitely the work of Khalid Shaikh Mohammad's hijackers. No conspiracy, except the one between Muslims, took place.
With the Deepest Respect to American Rall Fans
Y_S
Pakistan
Owen,
Why do you insist on appraising the merits of an argument using upon terms from the fashion industry.
Communism probably worked for most of human history. That is hundreds of thousands of years. If we are to have a truly honest discussion, we have to delineate what we mean by capitalism and communism. Last I checked capitalism just got bailed out by socialism for the second time. Does capitalism even exist?
"due to my experience in this field, I was thinking that the fire from the gas in the plane would melt the iron structure of the building and collapse the area where the plane hit and all the floors above it only."
-Osama bin Laden
Again, I ask. Can we really believe Osama had anything to do with any terrorist attack?
source:
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/12/13/tape.transcript/
Last I checked capitalism just got bailed out by socialism for the second time. Does capitalism even exist?
Wrong again. Capitalism didnt get us into this mess. A bank guided by capitalism would not have lent money, to purchase a home, who couldnt afford it. Your precious government forced banks to lend and then guarenteed the loans through Freddie and Fannie (run by DEMOCRAT Franklin Raines who walked away with $90 million).
9/11 Truthers... I get a kick out of that one every time. You people on the left have not wasted a second of time since the U.S. was attacked on 9/11 unwittingly supporting the terrorists who carried those attacks out.
I get a kick out of people saying that 9/11 Truthers are leftist. While that is somewhat true, the most prominent 9/11 Truther is Alex Jones, a staunch conservative.
Here is Chomsky on 9-11.
"A bank guided by capitalism would not have lent money, to purchase a home, who couldnt afford it"
America's economy failed because it was not capitalist enough.
Russia's economy failed because it was not socialist enough.
Your logic fails because it is not logical enough.
Personally, I believe that Bin Laden is either dead, or in hiding on one of his family's estates in Saudi Arabia.
Now if you can get Ted to do a couple of comics about it ...
Sorry Folks, it was those 19 hijackers that did everything.
Quite an elaborate scenario, full of details the presenter could not possibly know or prove, as demented as any other conspiracy theory anywhere, but in this case unfortunately defending the dominant orthodox pretexts for the current imperial follies.
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