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It's good to know the legal system is exactly the way Law and Order portrays it.
We've seen it in art, with Henry Morgan's character in an early episode of M*A*S*H, a military judge singing "Mississippi Mud" to an African-American officer testifying at a court-martial; or veteran character actor, Jeffrey Tambor, as a transvestite judge wearing women's undergarments under his robes. Then in real life, a judge in (Kansas?) who operated a penis-enlagement pump under his robes DURING trials; a Chicago-area judge who sent a woman to jail for contempt of court because she asked to go to the bathroom, etc. etc. etc.
The people in power, in their own eyes, have done nothing wrong. We peasants deserve what we get, because, even in victimhood, it's our fault we're clogging up the court systems. Blame the victim. Now for a quick fuck with the prosecutor. What ethics? What due process? The shit came downhill like a Tsunami during the George W. Bush/Dick Cheney administration. Power and authority attract sadists and perverts (talented, gifted and nurtured enough to complete college degrees in law and law enforcement...but fucked up in their heads). Rules are for people who bought the lies, who later might have protested, and who were 'reached out to' by the J. Edgar Hoovers and Nixons and Bush/Cheneys/Roves/Gonzales's. My Liege! Mein Fuhrer!
You gotta hate Texas: land of closets.
Outrageous. These kinds of decisions undercut the integrity of the entire process.
I hope it goes to the Supreme Court.
They can't torture people to death or work em to death in Southern-style gulags, so they believe completely unfair, ridiculous treatment of suspects and executing innocent people will give them the requisite tough image. And that will fight crime.
The outcome of the Civil War is a joke. We should have let the south go. They are vile creatures these "conservatives" (nevermind the fact that they used to be Democrats, until they moved over to the Republican party.)
My vote is that we put a huge fence around Texas, declare Bush the emperor, banish all neo-conservative Republicans (and the Fox News network) to Texas, throw in all the illegal immigrants, and let them have their own country - and watch America flourish while Texas rots.
Texas is as it has always been - land of pond scum. I feel sorry for the people who live there who have no choice. True, there are some good things from Texas; but they would be just as good outside as in. But the fact remains that we get the government we deserve, and Texans seem to be more distracted by propaganda than many other states' residents. When will people realize that WE are the government unless we stand in silence.
It's simple, don't live in Texas. 1 in 10 Americans live in Texas. Why? I have no idea. I wouldn't live in Texas. I don't even ever have a desire to go to Texas again.
Though, I did enjoy watching the Houston-Texas Tech game last night. They do have decent football.
Harry Morgan's "Mississippi Mud"-singing character was a three-star general, not a military judge.
Rex, Texas was it's own country and really needed to stay that way. Nevermind that it was actually stolen from Mexico Kosovo-style. As far as being part of the south, it has no reason even to do that. The country as a whole should break into at least 5 countries: Dixie; New England; Great Lakes States; Texas; Praire; Pacifico....seven if you boot out Alaska and Hawai'i.
This is a classic example of why the state should not have the right to take another person's life.
"This is a classic example of why the state should not have the right to take another person's life."
This is Shady's token attempt at logical consistency between his anti-government bent and his right wing dogma.
While I agree that the state should not have the right to execute (or torture), this is NOT "a classic example of why..."
It's an example of how the justice system is in pursuit of expedient closure rather than in search of the truth.
Flmgo Bb:
re: Harry Morgan's rank in M*A*S*H episode
Thanks, oh so much, for your timely correction. I see you are a devotee of movie trivia! There's no better role in life than nit-picking stuff of microscopic importance and COMPLETELY MISSING THE POINT of the reference. KMA!
Anon
Well no Aggie, it wasn't a token anything. It was me stating my opinion. However, like a typical arrogant statist, you don't listen to what someone says. You translate for them to what they really said. just like when you misquoted Limbaugh as saying something he didn't say. But that didn't matter to you because he really said what you inferred. The arrogance of you racist fascist statist is incredible.
That's why I can't understand why American leftists and "liberals" are so adamant against secession. You should be bringing this to the forefront of political debate, but instead it is taboo talk.
On another note, I wouldn't object to Delgado's description of the American industrial prison system as a "gulag" - which it is, mostly because of prohibition laws supported by both left and right -, except for the fact that he seems to be fond of the original, scarier GULAG.
Well anonymous, before I go back to pore over the myriad intricacies of your "art imitates life" post, sounding its very depths for that oh-so-elusive POINT, I'll just mention that references to Harry Morgan's role on M*A*S*H or Jeffrey Tambor's cross-dressing attorney/judge character on Hill Street Blues are examples of television trivia, not movie trivia.
I'm a liberal, and a socialist, and I am totally for secession.
Incitatus, as a liberal white, anglo-saxon, protestant male who grew up in the Old Confederasawwwwww, I think I can offer clarity to why secession is looked upon negatively by the left.
Secession was always discussed in the context of the civil war, which is a context of state primacy, which was the banner of preserving slavery as an institution. Our discourse still maintains that link, when in fact it shouldn't.
Liberals have far more to gain from allowing state secession than they can possibly imagine.
The country as a whole should break into at least 5 countries...
This sounds ok to me as long as Texas doesn't get nukes.
A new southern secession would be interesting.
Those states that are really backward (religiously fundamentalist, etc.) would intact laws that would drive the educated and creative away. Without the federal government to prop them up (and protect them from their most base, anti-science instincts), they'd spiral into places resembling the "3rd world."
It's funny. Some of the places that receive the most federal money are also the most "conservative."
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PS: The right/Republicans have proved themselves to be tremendously hypocritical on the issue of "state's rights." I think they've lost any legitimate claim to that mantle...
Another thought:
If the country did break apart, New England and Pacifico would probably become social democracies.
Seeing how well the nearby social democracies were doing would probably create tremendous pressure on the leadership in the regressive areas. It would most likely lead to war.
(Again, as I said, secession is fine, as long as Texas doesn't get nukes.)
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There's fictional examples of the US breaking apart (Vonnegut and Updike come to mind), but I think it's very unlikely in the near future. The entrenched corporate interests certainly enjoy the status quo.
Said Grouchy:
The entrenched corporate interests certainly enjoy the status quo.
I think it's more on the lines of: the entrenched political establishment, which entrenched corporate interests have to kiss up, want it to remain as it is.
On yet another note, I have to take issue with Aggie's comments about Shady's remarks. Every suspicious capital conviction is more proof that the state should never be allowed to execute anyone as punishment for a crime. I thought that should be one of the ideological bonds between us. NB: I'm in ideological sync with Shady, either.
I think it's more on the lines of: the entrenched political establishment, which entrenched corporate interests have to kiss up, want it to remain as it is.
Yeah, it's damn shame they have to spend all that money on lobbyists, isn't it? I feel so sorry for them...
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